{"guid":"2a328f4e-6442-4e3c-811e-e63b3c425bd4","title":"Hirne hacken: Hackback Edition","subtitle":"Wir verhandeln mit Erpressern, damit Ihr es nicht müsst.","slug":"37c3-12134-hirne_hacken_hackback_edition","link":"https://events.ccc.de/congress/2023/hub/event/hirne_hacken_hackback_edition/","description":"Du musst mit ein paar Erpressern um mehrere Millionen verhandeln.\nDas kann sogar Spaß machen, wenn es nicht dein Geld ist.\n\nSeit gut sieben Jahren ist Ransomware ein florierendes und stetig wachsendes Geschäftsmodell für durchschnittlich und unterdurchschnittlich begabte Hacker. Wie man sich davor schützen kann, ist kein Geheimnis. Trotzdem tun es offenbar immer noch zu wenige. Weil das ärgerlich ist, erklären wir es noch einmal.\n\nÜber die Vorgehensweisen der Gangs ranken sich allerlei Mythen, die verhindern, dass Organisationen sich sinnvoll schützen. Wir berichten aus unserer Erfahrung mit unzähligen Fällen, welche Schutzmaßnahmen wirklich sinnvoll sind.\n\nDoch auch über die Verhandlungen mit den Gangstern gibt es allerlei falsche Vorstellungen, angeheizt von selbsternannten \"Cyber-Profilern\" und \"Lösungsgeld-Verhandlern\", die natürlich kein Interesse haben, ihre „Tricks\" zu verraten. Deswegen machen wir das: Wir ergründen die spieltheoretische Mechanik der Verhandlungssituation an mehreren echten Beispielen und schauen uns die Organisation der Ransomware-Gangs an.\n\nKai Biermann ist Investigativ-Journalist und hat unter anderem Mitglieder der Ransomware-Gang Conti aufgedeckt. 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